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  1/18/2006 5:07 pm

I am 23 and have been married now for about 1 month and have my chapter 7 bk 341 meeting next Tuesday. I have been looking into a certain car insurance policy and I know that they run a credit report. My trouble is this- no one but my husband and I know that I have filed bk. My mother in law calls me today telling me that they are checking into another insurance policy with someone that they go through and asks me for my ss# and birth date, etc. She is checking into this b/c they are more than likely going to be paying for our car insurance. I am freaking out right now b/c I am afraid that her insurance agent is going to tell her that I have bad credit or that I have filed bk!! When I submitted a quote over the phone I recieved a piece of mail from the company a few days later stating that they have ran a credit check and that they had delinquent findings. I am also worried that she will use her address when she submitts it and recieve something like this. My question is do you think that her agent will tell her about my credit and that they will find out about it and do you think she will recieve a statement like I did in the mail about my bad credit?? Please help!!!!!
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  1/18/2006 8:34 pm

I'm not 100% certain about how insurance companies calculate a policy quote using information in your credit report. My bankruptcy (I've had two) has not negatively impacted my insurance (home or auto) in the least, then again my credit history is in pretty good shape other than the bankruptcy. Your experience is that some negatives in your credit history are going to be a problem in getting a competitive policy quote.

There are some points you made that trouble you and trouble me, namely confidentiality.

I am uncertain how far an insurance company is going to take your mother-in-law's request. She will be requesting a quote for coverage that is not for her and this is NOT to add you to her policy -- she wants to find you a new policy. Secondly I am not sure how far an insurance company is going to go with her producing a Social Security Number that does not belong to her. The problem with Identity Fraud today has changed how businesses handle this confidential information. Now if she is looking to add you and your husband to her existing policy that may be different. But that is not what I understand she plans to do. She plans to take your information and shop for you. I can't imagine a legitimate company would accept her signature as a waiver to use Social Security numbers that are not hers. Nor can I imagine a legitimate business would accept her authority as the legal approval to pull your credit file. So I think her good intentions may be thwarted because the social security number and credit history is not hers. If this is the case then you can relax and emotionally exhale.

I also think changing your legal address to her address to obtain confidential information is unacceptable. Her intentions are honorable, but philosophically I believe she needs to honor your right to privacy and respect your boundaries. You are a married woman and even though she is older she needs to view you and your husband as an autonomous unit that is separate and distinct from her.

If she wishes to write checks to pay for your insurance premiums that is extremely generous. However, it does not give her the right to delve into your private finances and access confidential information.

And I am rather certain insurance companies see it that way too. In viewing this from an insurance company's perspective, they would have a huge liability if you were to go back to them over pulling and releasing information to someone you have not authorized in writing.

I'm hoping your mother-in-law will be turned away and she will call you to let you know she couldn't proceed with a quote without you. If that's the case you can be gracious and thank her; let her know you are or will be getting quotes from other companies and you'll keep her posted.

Hope others can add insight.

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  1/18/2006 10:39 pm

Thank you for your reply! The way she made it sound to me is that she was going to be shopping around for car insurance for us- not being added to their existing policy. I do have negatives like deliquencies to pay credit cards on my credit report. The agent she is calling in the morning is there agent who has been for years. I was quoted by one company that I looked into $129/mo for both of our vehicles- 97 Ford Tauras and a 98 Dodge Ram. Then a couple of days later I got a piece of mail that just stated what they had found on my credit report. That was it. As far as I understand they are going to pay for our car insurance but just give us the money. I was worried that she would have given them their address. As far as her shopping around in my name I just wonder if she is going to call these places saying she is me if it's just over the phone with other people than her agent. I know her man has to keep confidentality but I know how things go when you know someone for awhile he might mention it to her if the premiums are high. I am just scared right now that they are going to find out about all of this stuff!!! I love them to death and am sooo grateful that they are helping us with money but I just feel we need to do this kind of stuff it's kind of personal and I know that sounds awful but I truely am grateful to these people. Thank you for your response!!
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  1/19/2006 11:59 am

So get on the phone with her BEFORE she calls and tell her to STOP!! Tell her you thought about it and you are not comfortable with her finding your insurance for you. You should have never given her your SSN in the first place. If she wants to call her guy, she could have just referred you to him and YOU CALL. YES! To answer your question, this guy is going to tell her that it's high and she's going to ask why and he's going to say it's because of the lates and because you filed Bankruptcy. He's not going to have any trouble with it because she has all your info and you have given her permission to call for you. Like you said...they have a long standing relationship.

If she hasn't called STOP HER now!

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  1/20/2006 8:47 am

I'm tending to agree with Sweatpea on this. There are a few insurance co's that rely heavily on credit reports. We are with Progressive. Originally we got them many years ago when we still had great credit (though over a hundred K in debt!). They mentioned we got a good rate b/c of our credit, and our rate hasn't changed despite the BK. But we never tried to change anything so maybe they don't know.

I think she will find out if she gives out your SS # and info. Hope it isn't too late!

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