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My DD is 3 days old. I decided to BF for economic reasons, so if BF'ing doesn't work out I will be more than happy to switch to formula.

DD is latching but quickly falls asleep, and will not take any more. She has slept for 5 hours periods or more. She has only peed once today, and only had one small bowal movement (not BM poop). I am getting worried about her, and I am agony as she will not empty my breasts. I don't have a pump to get rid of the pain, and I figure I will just end up drying up. I undress her when feeding and tried cooling her down with a cold cloth but nothing is working.

Any advise? She has a dr on Friday, should I wait that long for medical attention for her?

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You need to be waking baby after 2 hours during the day.  This is 2 hours from the beginning of the session to the beginning of the next session.  At night baby may have 1 stretch of sleep that is 4 hours long and wake after 4 hours.  

Baby needs to be BF AT LEAST 10 times in 24 hours - this early 12 or more times in 24 hours is normal.  

"Frequent nursing encourages good milk supply and reduces engorgement. Aim for nursing at least 10 - 12 times per day (24 hours). You CAN'T nurse too often--you CAN nurse too little.

Nurse at the first signs of hunger (stirring, rooting, hands in mouth)--don't wait until baby is crying. Allow baby unlimited time at the breast when sucking actively, then offer the second breast. Some newborns are excessively sleepy at first--wake baby to nurse if 2 hours (during the day) or 4 hours (at night) have passed without nursing.

Is baby getting enough milk?

Weight gain: Normal newborns may lose up to 7% of birth weight in the first few days. After mom's milk comes in, the average breastfed baby gains 6 oz/week (170 g/week). Take baby for a weight check at the end of the first week or beginning of the second week. Consult with baby's doctor and your lactation consultant if baby is not gaining as expected.

Dirty diapers: In the early days, baby typically has one dirty diaper for each day of life (1 on day one, 2 on day two...). After day 4, stools should be yellow and baby should have at least 3-4 stools daily that are the size of a US quarter (2.5 cm) or larger. Some babies stool every time they nurse, or even more often--this is normal, too. The normal stool of a breastfed baby is loose (soft to runny) and may be seedy or curdy.

Wet diapers: In the early days, baby typically has one wet diaper for each day of life (1 on day one, 2 on day two...). Once mom's milk comes in, expect 5-6+ wet diapers every 24 hours. To feel what a sufficiently wet diaper is like, pour 3 tablespoons (45 mL) of water into a clean diaper. A piece of tissue in a disposable diaper will help you determine if the diaper is wet."

more here including what is normal the first 6 weeks:   http://www.kellymom.com/bf/normal/newborn-nursing.html#week1

Some tips for sleepy baby:

If your baby is sleepy here are some suggestions to help keep the baby awake and interested:

  • make sure your free hand is supporting your breast so the weight of the breast isn't on the baby's chin
  • switch breasts as soon as the baby begins to lose interest in active nursing, this *may* need to be done every 30 to 60 seconds at first (the first few times you do it). You should begin to see a difference within a couple days of doing this.
  • Burp and change diaper. Burping should be done with the baby sitting supported upright on mom's knee or lap rather than over the shoulder because it's also less sleep-inducing.
  • nurse in clutch or "football" hold as opposed to cradle hold - it's a little less "cuddly" and sleep-inducing.
  • massage the baby's head (crown) in a circular motion while nursing. Also using a wet cold washcloth and wiping back against the grain of the hair growth can help Try this for several days and see if there's improvement, and please update us as you can.
  • Place baby on your lap with legs near your tummy and head on your knees. Gently supporting baby, raise in sitting position, like doing a "sit- up". Do this two or three times, then do "side to side" a couple times.
  • You can also try breast compression.

You may want to reduce any outside or excessive stimulation. (bright lights & noise) Sometimes babies just need to tune out all the noise/light and they do this by falling asleep.

 If you are uncomfortable you can hand express.  How to hand express here:  http://www.breastfeeding.com/helpme/helpme_images_expression.html

The milk that is hand expressed can be frozen or fed to baby now via spoon, cup dropper etc. if baby does not have a good feeding.  You want to avoid bottles for the first 4 weeks or so.  

I want to point out that for you as well as lurkers that the economic benefits of  breastfeeding extend beyond the cost of formula.  BF babies have lower medical bills through out thier lives.  Also since BF is the biologocal norm, there are also health benefits for  mom (lower rates of certain cancers, lower rates of cardiovascular problems later in life, less diabetes and more). 

Take a look at the info and follow up with questions.



 

 



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I can relate to the sleepy eater problem. My DD is 9 weeks old and is still a sleepy eater. I know all of the tricks, squeezing her foot, rubbing her spine, undressing her, cold wash cloth, baby sit ups, rocking, talking to her, etc. None of them work very well and she still wants to fall asleep after 5-10 minutes of eating but if I keep bugging her during the entire feed, she will usually end up eating for about 45 minutes. It's a chore keeping her awake, but you just have to keep pestering them.

Also, if she's not eating enough that will make her even more sleepy, so more reason to make sure she keeps eating! PP had lots of good advice. BFing is not to blame, but you may have to BF differently or do some things differently for it to work right.

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I've been doing everything to get her to eat. She will only suck maybe 10 times and she is out, I don't know what else to do. Do you think there could be something wrong with her?
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How many times has baby nursed todAY?

How many wets? How many dirties? Have you expressed any milk and given the expressed milk to baby as I suggested in my first post? Are you trying all of the tips I posted for you? Are you doing breast compressions while baby is BF?

Did you have a natural (NO MEDS) birth? If you had meds that will often lead to a sleepier baby. Thsi will pass.

You may want to contact a local LC to work with or your local LLL leader (many leaders are also LCs) to work with you in person on keeping baby awake


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