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  3/9/2002 8:51 pm

I absolutely AGREE here.. it may *work* for some kids but others get into terrible problems (hospitalized) (M)

This is primarily for lurkers - not specifically for the above poster:

Scheduling works for some babies, they are able to adapt and still grow - this doesn't say a THING for Ezzo but rather says how wonderfully remarkable our human bodies are to adjust to something that is NOT natural, and still survive.

Other babies simply cannot grow properly on "3 hr feedings" - for one thing, breastmilk digests in about 90 minutes.. that means you are FORCING your 6 week old, or 10 wk old, etc. to go without food until YOU think it's time to feed. These babies typically end up supplmented with formula, and for the few who have mothers who doggedly try to continue exclusively bf, babies have ended up in the hospital with serious cases of failure to thrive.

Imgagine having a really important guest over to your house. Perhaps your boss or your husband's boss, or someone even more important than that - and you've just eaten dinner - one helping of course. Lets say this person is staying over - and wakes up once everyone has gone to bed, with tummy growling.. and you catch this person in the hall heading to fridge or kitchen for a drink and/or a snack.. and when you ask,they say they are thirsty/hungry.. but you tell them.. NO! You had your meal at "x" time and you cannot have anything else until "x" time, go back to bed and just ignore your thirst/hunger. What would your company think then??

Using babywise "loosely" is one thing (tho it still stinks that babies have to be "loved" on a schedule - "you can only have a hug or be loved up every 3 hrs - otherwise you have to wait.. can you imagine saying that to your child when they come running in for a hug? Can you imagine being told by your spouse that he only permits hugging/cuddling at certain times, and too bad if you need comfort "inbetween" (learn to comfort yourself) - you CAN comfort yourself, that's not the point.. humans need frequent contact with one another, that's part of building a loving trusting society. Those who have been left to "self-comfort" just have learned that "nobody cares" if they need comforting, or are hungry, they have to wait... so they begin to ignore their own needs and "shut down" (so they sleep, or "self comfort"). Guess that's the price you pay for having a "good baby". (this is not directed at *you* (the poster here) but at *you* meaning those considering using Babywise)

Here are more EZZO links, and you might visit the debate board, where this particular subject might be more "accepted":

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/9108.html

http://www.ezzo.info/Aney/aneyaap.htm

Please be aware of the potential problems of Babywise BEFORE recommending it to others, and if you're still okay with it AFTER reading the potential problems, then that of course is your right as a parent.

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  3/10/2002 1:17 pm

ITA nt

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  3/9/2002 4:15 pm

Hmm... I hope the WINK icon you used means that you're joking. If not, well, I'm glad things are going well for you (m)

but I think it's important to also note that Ezzo's ideas about how to raise children are extremely controversial, to say the least. He's not a child-development specialist, and his rules for feeding schedules and "crying it out" have been linked to all kinds of problems in breastfeeding, as well as producing malnourished babies and later on kids with serious emotional problems like attachment disorders.

I don't know if you're aware that _Babywise_ is the mass-market secularized version of his _Growing Kids God's Way_. Many churches still use that curriculum in their parenting classes, but an awful lot have rejected it as being scripturally unsound and just plain bad for babies and families.

For anyone who is interested, here is a link to some of Ezzo's completely unsubtantiated medical ideas:

http://www.ezzo.info/Aney/unsub.htm

And if you WERE joking, please forgive me for making sure that everyone got the joke. Sometimes intent is hard to read in a board post or e-mail message.

Respectfully, Song

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  3/9/2002 4:29 pm

Although I agree that Ezzo is wrong in most things I have to disagree with something that you said...

Babywise is *not* Growing Kids God's Way! Babywise is the mass market version of Preparation for Parenting. Both are geared toward babies 0-5 months. Growing Kids is for the toddler years to the teen years.

I know it's a very minor point, but if you are going to tell that something is wrong, I feel you need to have the right info.

tongue in cheek while this is being said.

Cheryl

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Thanks for the correction! Always helps to have one's facts straight. nt.

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