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Circumcision no help in preventing STD's

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Note: I was asked by a fellow poster to place the following data in the "Resource" section so once again here it is.

 

The following statistics prove that in America where 80% or more of sexual active males are circumcised that it has no positive effect on limiting the spread of diseases. The religious demands to teach abstinence alone is obviously not working. We as a nation can learn a lot from our European neighbors about the foreskin as well as educating our younger generation on attitude and conduct when it comes to sexual matters.

Dick  

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=419&Itemid=177

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Pregnancy

In the United States, the teen pregnancy rate is more than nine times higher than that in the Netherlands, nearly four times higher than the rate in France, and nearly five times higher than that in Germany.1,2,3 

Teen Pregnancy Rate

Birth

In the United States, the teen birth rate is nearly 11 times higher than that of the Netherlands, nearly five times higher than the rate in France, and nearly four times higher than that in Germany.2,3,4 

Teen BirthRate

Abortion

In the United States, the teen abortion rate is nearly eight times higher than the rate in Germany, nearly seven times higher than that in the Netherlands, and nearly three times higher than the rate in France.1,2,3 

teen abortion rate

U.S. HIV/STI Rates Also Compare Poorly.

HIV in Young Women and Men

In the United States, the estimated HIV prevalence rate in young men ages 15 to 24 is over five times higher than the rate in Germany, nearly three times higher than the rate in the Netherlands, and about 1 ½ times higher than that in France.5 

HIV prevalence
rate in young men

In the United States, the estimated HIV prevalence rate in young women ages 15 to 24 is six times higher than the rate in Germany, nearly three times higher than the rate in the Netherlands, and is the same as that in France.5  

HIV prevalence
rate in young women

Syphilis

In the United States, the teen syphilis rate is over six times higher than that of the Netherlands, over five times higher than the rate in former West Germany, and nearly three times higher than that in former East Germany. Data are not available for France.6 

teen
syphilis rate

Gonorrhea

In the United States, the teen gonorrhea rate is over 74 times higher than that in the Netherlands and France, over 66 times higher than the rate in former West Germany, and over 38 times higher than that in former East Germany.6 

teen
gonorrhea rate

Chlamydia

In the United States, the teen chlamydia rate is over 20 times higher than that in France. Data are not available for Germany or the Netherlands.6 

teen
chlamydia rate

American Youth Have Sex at the Same Age or Even Earlier than Youth in Europe. Young People in the U.S. Have More Sexual Partners.

In the United States, young people typically initiate sexual intercourse at the same age or even earlier compared to young people in the Netherlands and France.3,7 Data are not available for Germany.

Finally, the proportion of sexually active teenage men and women ages 18 to 19 that had two or more sexual partners within the past year is substantially higher in the United States than in France. Data on number of sexual partners are not available for Germany or the Netherlands. Having two or more sexual partners increases youth's potential risk of becoming infected with HIV and other STIs.7 



% With Two or More 
Sexual Partners in Past Year7


Typical Age at First Sexual Intercourse3,7 



Women Ages 18 to 19


Men Ages 18 to 19

 United States

48.6%

48.8%

17.4 years

Netherlands

17.7 years

 France

12.8%

28.8%

18.0 years

 Germany

Implementing the Model: Potential Impact on Adolescent Sexual Health in the U.S.

If society in the United States became more comfortable with sexuality and if governmental policies created greater, easier access to sexual health information and services, adolescents' sexual health outcomes could improve markedly. Imagine that the United States' adolescent pregnancy, birth, and abortion rates improved to match those in the European nations studied. The reduced rates would mean large reductions in the numbers of pregnancies, births, and abortions to teens in the United States each year—and in the public funds needed to support families begun with a birth to a teen.


If the U.S. Rates Equaled Rates in:


Fewer Pregnancies


Fewer Births


Fewer Abortions


Lower Public Costs8

 Netherlands

657,000

441,000

215,000

$921 million

 France

550,000

391,000

160,000

$815 million

 Germany

588,000

367,000

221,000

$767 million

The Lessons Learned: A Model to Improve Adolescent Sexual Health in the U.S.9

So, if Dutch, German, and French teens have better sexual health outcomes, have fewer sexual partners, and initiate sexual activity at the same age or even later than U.S. youth, what's the secret? Is there a 'silver bullet' solution for the United States that will reduce the nearly four million new sexually transmitted infections occurring among U.S. teens each year, or the 20,000 new HIV infections among 13- to 24-year-old youth, or the 900,000 teen pregnancies?1,10,11 

Unfortunately, there is not a single, 'silver bullet' solution. Yet, the United States can use the experience of the Dutch, Germans, and French to guide its efforts to improve adolescents' sexual health. Indeed, the United States can overcome obstacles and achieve social and cultural consensus respecting sexuality as a normal and healthy part of being human and of being a teen by using lessons learned from the European study tours.

  • Adults in the Netherlands, France, and Germany view young people as assets, not as problems. Adults value and respect adolescents and expect teens to act responsibly. Governments strongly support education and economic self-sufficiency for youth.
  • Research is the basis for public policies to reduce unintended pregnancy, abortion, and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Political and religious interest groups have little influence on public health policy.
  • A national desire to reduce the number of abortions and to prevent sexually transmitted infections, including HIV, provides the major impetus in each country for unimpeded access to contraception, including condoms, consistent sexuality education, and widespread public education campaigns.
  • Governments support massive, consistent, long-term public education campaigns utilizing the Internet, television, films, radio, billboards, discos, pharmacies, and health care providers. Media is a partner, not a problem, in these campaigns. Campaigns are far more direct and humorous than in the U.S. and focus on safety and pleasure.
  • Youth have convenient access to free or low-cost contraception through national health insurance.
  • Sexuality education is not necessarily a separate curriculum and may be integrated across school subjects and at all grade levels. Educators provide accurate and complete information in response to students' questions.
  • Families have open, honest, consistent discussions with teens about sexuality and support the role of educators and health care providers in making sexual health information and services available for teens.
  • Adults see intimate sexual relationships as normal and natural for older adolescents, a positive component of emotionally healthy maturation. At the same time, young people believe it is "stupid and irresponsible " to have sex without protection and use the maxim, "safer sex or no sex."
  • The morality of sexual behavior is weighed through an individual ethic that includes the values of responsibility, respect, tolerance, and equity.
  • France, Germany, and the Netherlands work to address issues around cultural diversity in regard to immigrant populations and their values that differ from those of the majority culture.

Rights. Respect. Responsibility.®: A National Campaign to Improve Adolescent Sexual Health

In October 2001, Advocates for Youth launched a long-term campaign — Rights. Respect. Responsibility.® — based on the lessons learned from the European study tours. The Campaign will work to shift the current societal paradigm of adolescent sexuality away from a negative emphasis on fear and ignorance and towards an acceptance of sexuality as healthy and normal and a view of adolescents as a valuable resource.

  • Adolescents have the right to balanced, accurate, and realistic sexuality education, confidential and affordable sexual health services, and a secure stake in the future.
  • Youth deserve respect. Today, they are perceived only as part of the problem. Valuing young people means they are part of the solution and are included in the development of programs and policies that affect their well-being.
  • Society has the responsibility to provide young people with the tools they need to safeguard their sexual health and young people have the responsibility to protect themselves from too early childbearing and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.

Advocates is developing and disseminating campaign materials for specific audiences, such as entertainment industry and news media professionals, policy makers, youth-serving professionals, parents, and youth activists.

Each summer, Advocates will continue its thought-provoking European study tours. Advocates will also collaborate with key national organizations and state-based stakeholders to promote Rights. Respect. Responsibility.® through campaign materials, workshops, presentations, and technical assistance. For additional information on the Campaign or to become an organizational partner in this important initiative, contact Advocates for Youth at 202.419.3420 or visit www.advocatesforyouth.org.

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They should do it by race and you would see white circumcised Americans much lower than their Euro ***** counterparts.

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It's always interesting (and scary!) to see how the US compares to other countries.

It seems rather clear that this "prophylactic" surgery ain't to "prophylactic".

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<<  It's always interesting (and scary!) to see how the US compares to other countries.

It seems rather clear that this "prophylactic" surgery ain't to "prophylactic". >>

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It will only give the males in America, Africa or else where another excuse for not wearing a condom and the numbers of unwanted pregnancies and transferral of STD's will increase not decrease. Most males do not choose condoms by choice when having sex as far as sensitivity is concerned and the removal of thousands of sensors and the eventual numbing  of the glans is certainly not a precursor for increasing the desire to wear a condom. The sad thing is many young girls will believe this information that is being distribted in a dying struggle to continue the onslaught on the male population. Really has no more truth in fact then the previous 150 years of quackery lies.

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Dick, thanks for posting proof for what we already knew, that the US is obsessed with circ and it hasn't done us a damned bit of good.

Elissa


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