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Some of you know I subscribed, financially, as much as I could afford to Intact America. I also followed it up with a British standpoint on the subject.

The link below is just a part of Intact America's campaign, but it speaks of the UK's refusal and inability to subscribe to the African 'evidence' - from an American vista.

#I'm intrigued to know why a yoghurt enema has any relevance to circumcision at all; or why yoghurt is any better, for prophylactic treatment of ailments, than an enema composed of warm, soapy water.#

Regardless, there is much in this link that is well worth browsing  - even briefly.

Intact America has grown apace... and is now a driving force of influence for genital male integrity. I hope it will be the sting-in-the tail which will cause  the CDC and the AAP to take stock of world opinion. If not, it will bring its medical fraternity beyond the realms of reason, into Victorian antiquity - and this from the nation that took us to the moon! Does its left hand know what its right hand is doing?

http://www.oprah.com/article/relationships/family/pkgprotectwhatmattersmost/20091006-orig-fatherhood-circumcision

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Actually, the yogurt enema was part of the regimen to limit sexual activity, so maybe the yogurt had an effect on desire?

Maybe the yogurt affects the prostate in a negative way, making the thought of sexual activity unpleasant.

Warm, soapy water would be more soothing and possibly pleasing, so would be counter-productive to the "desired" feelings. Of non-desire. :)

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I'm surprised this article is at oprah.com...isn't she the one pushing the face cream that uses the foreskin as one of its ingredients?  (just typing that makes me feel sick). 

 

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From the article:

<<Dr. Kellogg was not just against premarital sex and masturbation; he was against all sex—even for married couples.>>

Ummm, was he trying to bring about the end of the human race?  Or was he just plain crazy and stupid?

 

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"Ummm, was he trying to bring about the end of the human race?  Or was he just plain crazy and stupid?"
 
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I would suggest crazy caused by stupidly for believing and thus following the teachings prevalent in the Victorian era in England. Ever sense a record of man's history has been recorded it show's when religious beliefs beyond believing in a supreme power and the creation that followed is modified and added on to by man, common sense is overtaken by stupidity. Stupidity that reflects in every negative action in the entire population of the world as we know it.
 
Practicality is replaced by mythical teachings. Kellogg and cronies beliefs that sex was sinful was really no different then those hundreds at Jones town or those dying to catch the tail of a comet. Then of course the bloody history of religious wars that are present to this day. The infant male penis is nothing more then a single pawn in the world of inequities caused by craziness in the minds of mankind that is taught as no one is born programmed to kill, hate, thinking sex is sinful or that the foreskin should be removed. But RIC is an example of just how wrong beliefs can be started, many times by a single man, accepted by followers, developed in to a religious or culture norm, promoted and past from generation to generation. Right this moment infant males are having their penises painfully and senselessly modified because dad had his senselessly and painfully modified. Call it stupidity or craziness, either or both apply.
 
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