Current Debates

"In all the things I've seen on how little money is actually given for welfare, I'm standing by my statement."

ITA. You'd have to either be concealing a source of income, which is already illegal, or not paying your bills at all in order to have anything left over. And I don't think it should be policed either. How would they even do that?

My Kiddo :)

"Speaking from experience, if you make $1200 a month, there is a good chance you have bad credit, and therefore own everything, or almost everything out right so you have little to no debt."

That makes no sense. I suppose it's possible to have bad credit with little debt, but NO debt? The only way that would happen is if you just routinely paid bills late but always paid them. I'd venture to guess that most people with bad credit have sizable debt. They may own most things outright, but have debt from things like medical care, utilities, overdrawn and abandoned bank accounts, payday loans, student loans, etc.

My Kiddo :)

"The goal is NOT to become self sufficient. I can attest to this. If it were, then savings would be allowed. Again, using our own example. We don't recieve welfare but my partner recieves Medi-cal for his chronic illness. If he earns too much money-he loses his health care. If we get married-he loses his health care. If he has more than $1,500 in assets, including an automobile,-he loses his health care. How do any of these guideline provide incentive to become more "self sufficient?" To basically lose everything if one does any better becomes a disincentive to work and improve ones situation, at all."

I think your partner's situation is different from what Marina is talking about as his is really not temporary at all. He's going to have to deal with this for the rest of his life. This is not the same as a single mom who lost her job and needs help for a month or two until she finds another job.

My Kiddo :)

Thats disgusting. Seriously.

altho when I said saving money I meant the $40 to $80 it costs to get a tattoo (of course it depends on the size and stuff). But the other poster said it was impossible for anyone one welfare to be able to save $40. And I stated that over time they may haved saved $40 w/o taking from thier childs food money.