you are here: iVillage Pregnancy & Parenting Pregnancy & Parenting message boards Religion Debate  / Debates  / 

Religion Debate

265874 messages posted to this board • 3 messages posted today
find messages about   
welcome!
 
last visit to this board
Nov-20


messages posted
this board
676

add to friends
ignore posts
discussion title:
 

Can someone explain this to me....

emoticon:
 emoticon
message #:
  11592.1
replies:
  38
from:
date:
  Oct-5 2:47 pm

...please please please? I REALLY don't want this to be what it looks like.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6262938/Barack-Obama-cancels-meeting-with-Dalai-Lama-to-keep-China-happy.html

President Barack Obama has refused to meet the Dalai Lama in Washington this week in a move to curry favour with the Chinese

The decision came after China stepped up a campaign urging nations to shun the Tibetan spiritual leader.

It means Mr Obama will become the first president not to welcome the Nobel peace prize winner to the White House since the Dalai Lama began visiting Washington in 1991.

The Buddhist monk arrived in Washington on Monday for a week of meetings with Congressional leaders, celebrity supporters and interest groups, but the president will not see him until after he has made his first visit to China next month.

Samdhong Rinpoche, the Tibetan prime minister-in-exile, has accused the United States and other Western nations of "appeasement" toward China as its economic weight grows.

"Today, economic interests are much greater than other interests," he said.

Mr Obama's decision dismayed human rights and Tibetan support groups, who said he had made an unnecessary concession to the Chinese, who regard the Dalai Lama as a "splittist", despite his calls for autonomy rather than independence for Tibet. The Chinese invaded in 1950, forcing the young leader to flee.

Sophie Richardson, Asia advocate for Human Rights Watch, said: "Presidents always meets the Dalai Lama and what happens? Absolutely nothing.

"This idea that if you are nice to the Chinese Communist Party up front you can cash in later is just wrong. If you lower the bar on human rights they will just move it lower and lower."

Over several months of discussions the Tibetans resisted entreaties to delay the meeting, arguing that a refusal would make smaller countries more vulnerable to pressure from China not to meet the Dalai Lama.

But they were told by US officials they wanted to work with China on critical issues, including nuclear weapons proliferation in North Korea and Iran, according to The Washington Post. Mr Obama then sent a delegation to the Dalai Lama's home in exile in India last month that confirmed the meeting would be deferred.

Mr Obama has changed his position on Tibet since his election campaign.

(article continues)

Please, oh please, tell me that Obama didn't just snub the Dalai Lama to make nice with China.

 

last visit to this board
8:43 pm


messages posted
this board
8774

add to friends
ignore posts
discussion title:
 

Can someone explain this to me....

emoticon:
 emoticon
message #:
  11592.2 in response to 11592.1
replies:
  38
from:
  snow_lynx  Member Icon
to:
date:
  Oct-5 3:40 pm

As far as I know, the meeting was postponed, not cancelled, and it was done a month ago (or nearly).  He's meeting with the Dalai Lama in November. 

But in short, yes.  China told the USA that they greatly dislike all the support Tibet is getting, and it will have a negative influence on anything the US tries to accomplish in October with China.  So the administration went to India and met with the Dalai Lama at his headquarters there to brief him about their new strategy, the Dalai Lama agreed, and they're switching the order they're meeting.

Not sure what to make of it, really.  Either China's disfavour would be extremely harmful to the USA, which is scary and unlikely - or they're close to a good compromise and it's not a good time to tick anyone off?



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I am a wizard, not a saint." - Harry Dresden

 
States with legal same-sex marriage:
Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Washington D.C.*
 
last visit to this board
Nov-21


add to friends
ignore posts
discussion title:
 

Can someone explain this to me....

emoticon:
 emoticon
message #:
  11592.3 in response to 11592.2
replies:
  38
from:
  mrshofman  Member Icon
to:
  snow_lynx  Member Icon
date:
  Oct-5 6:03 pm

The cynic in me would point out that we threw Eastern Europe under the bus, so why not Tibet?

~Didi

Wife to Ron, Mommy to Will


baby

I have a blog!
last visit to this board
Nov-20


messages posted
this board
676

add to friends
ignore posts
discussion title:
 

Can someone explain this to me....

emoticon:
 emoticon
message #:
  11592.4 in response to 11592.3
replies:
  38
from:
to:
  mrshofman  Member Icon
date:
  Oct-6 2:01 pm

Whenever people complain about the huge influx of Poles into this country, my dad points out that we gave their country to Russia, so we owe them.

 

last visit to this board
9:44 am


messages posted
this board
67

add to friends
ignore posts
discussion title:
 

Can someone explain this to me....

emoticon:
 emoticon
message #:
  11592.5 in response to 11592.4
replies:
  38
from:
to:
date:
  Oct-6 9:03 pm

I imagine it must be sooo hard being president of the US and trying to make all the various countries you deal with at least slightly content with you. Its like having a group of friends and none of them like each other but they all like you or something crazy like that, lol.

On a side note, i hated the whole anti immigrant thing in the UK. I was only american but people still didn't like me. And being muslim meant that some people felt i had gone over "to the dark side" lol.

Change the number of messages
displayed on this page in
Indicate your interest in the discussion
   
Get updates to this discussion
delivered by email