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  9/1/2008 10:12 pm

I've not denied her the choice at all.  I'm incapable of denying her the choice.  She already chose.

I most certainly think she has made a poor choice, and sacrificed her daughters privacy on the altar of her ambition.  And as she is applying for a job and I'm the potential employer I most certainly CAN use my knowledge of her choices to help me decide whether or not she should be given the position.

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I was skeptical of Governor Palin from the very beginning. Why? Because she seemed so indifferent to the care of her newborn son. I have met many "all about me" Moms. Sarah Palin is one of them. She is an egotist and an opportunist. When her daughter needed her most, (this girl was supposed to have been suffering from Mononucleosis when she became pregnant), Governor Palin (and her husband) were traveling to conferences and speaking engagements all over the country. She seemed to have no regard for the safety of the fetus she was carrying. It was "All about Sarah".

Her slogan is not "Country First" or even "Family First". It's "Sarah First" all the way to the White House!

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"I was skeptical of Governor Palin from the very beginning. Why? Because she seemed so indifferent to the care of her newborn son."

How do you figure?  He is always with a parent....so how is that being "indifferent"?

"When her daughter needed her most, (this girl was supposed to have been suffering from Mononucleosis when she became pregnant),"

Uhhh, I think you are confusing made up stories.  At least if you are going to listen to false stories...keep them striaght.

"Governor Palin (and her husband) were traveling to conferences and speaking engagements all over the country."

When her daughter needed them the most (b/c she had mono aka was pregnant.....which btw, was this the time she was pregnant with trig or this pregnancy?), they were doing this?  Interesting stretch of the imagination........and makes no sense at all.

"She seemed to have no regard for the safety of the fetus she was carrying."

I will ask again...how do you figure?

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Hi all - this really intrigues me...

Is it possible that Sarah Palin knows her family and her limits well enough to have made this choice to run? Is it possible that she truly feels she can serve her family and her country best by running and winning and making a positive difference?

Of course I realize that most of the pps here don't agree with her positions and therefore do NOT think she will make a positive difference - but in her own mind, she has a chance to run, win and help lead our country in a direction that SHE feels is best. That is serving her family in the long term. What I see so far in her - she does not seem to be the hardened career politician who is just name and power hungry. She got involved at local levels, was good at it and found out she could make a difference.

I'm very interested in her and look forward to learning more about her and her positions. I'm thrilled that a "mom" can have this opportunity. I personally don't think I would run - I know how hard it is to just run a business and have 4 kids (who have gone to work with me since day 1, something I read she does with the little one sometimes.) But, she seems to be a tough cookie - more power to her.

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>>There were headlines about some "potentials" discussing why they would not run for VP if asked....they have been on various newspapers for some time now.  Although, honestly... they wouldnt' have had to say WHY....I am sure if she heard that it was turned down she would feel enough guilt from it on her own....and people would put two and two together on their own once it was known that she was pregnant (with or without truth to it....just look what they did and the stories they came up with sayign Bristol was the mother of Trig).<<

So she needed to take the job lest she turn it down for family reasons, not necessarily limited to not wanting to put her daughter under a microscope right now, and the media speculate erroneously about her reasons and her daughter read that inaccurate speculate and felt guilty?  OK.

>>Of course your judgement is better today then it was then.....I am sure ones judgement is better at 27 then 17 and better at 37 then at 27...etc etc etc.  But it doesn't mean that you were incapable of making choices about your own life.  It doesn't mean that at 17 you wouldn't be able to say "mom, I don't want you to not take the nom b/c of me"....and that you shouldn't take that seriously.  If that is indeed what she said to her mother, I have no idea....but if she did....do I think she REALLY understands what that means and what is to come...no, probably not.  But I just dont' agree that she needs to be "sheltered" from it either.<<

and we disagree.  I do not think there is anyway a 17 year old knows what the media scrutiny will be like, particularly a 17 year old from a very small town in a very remote state.  Even as the daughter of the governor she was exposed to very little and remained living in her home town. 

>>Personally, I didn't know she was pregnant and I doubt that many people did so I don't think we can say no one gives a rip.  I have no doubt that she would have gotten media exposure (granted at a local level....but I have to wonder if it would be at a national level given her mothers stance on sex ed in schools).  I remember the big hoopla when Sarah announced her pregnancy...and later her birth.....so I am sure we would have heard the same about her daughter<<

You are from her hometown?  I just read an article by a reporter (very impressed with her by the way) who has been there for a while and says the folks there knew and didn't care.  The media scrutiny comes soley as a result of mom's choices.

>>and it amuses me that those who are giving it the most publicity are the same ones are booing Sarah for "Forcing" her child into the spotlight (are the same ones who were so quick to throw here into the spotlight by saying she was Trig's mom)....<<

Not me.  I've certainly not played that game in any way shape or form. 

The pregnancy is the girl's responsiblity (along with her boyfriend), making the pregnancy into a media spectacle is entirely Mom's responsiblity.  Do I feel this way about every candidate with a kid?  Nope, though I'd feel the same way about any candidate with a kid who was in a position where media scrutiny would be potentially quite differnt than the norm -- a child with mental health concerns, a child with special educational needs, a child who was acting out and finding it difficult to manage "norma" behavior -- and a pregnant teenager.  The other children of Palin are not being placed into this position. 

Though I have to wonder if she should be elected, will her son have to be removed from Iraq out of concern he'll be a target?  I know that is a concern among those whose children are knows -- the British royal family for example.

Rose

 

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