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A friend sent a helicopter parent in the workplace article to me.

So what do you think about how our actions as parents play out for our students?

Ok if you call the high school teacher re policy or grades disputes?

Ok if you call the college re policy or grades disputes?

Ok if you call the boss re policy or salary disputes?

How are you teaching your college students to be responsible for their actions?

When do we stop having their back?

 

 

Helicopter parents in the workplace

 

Q: A 23 yr. old professional employee just walked off the job because I refused to allow her the use of sick leave to go for a pre-employment physical for a new job. Our HR dept. advised she should use personal, comp or vacation time. She was so angry she walked out and then I got a nasty phone call from her mother! Her mother had also called my superior. Can you comment on this?

A: If I understand the situation accurately, she resigned without notice because she wanted to use sick leave for a pre-employment physical for another job? I am assuming the other job is with another company and not an internal transfer or a new role with a different division or business unit of your company. I agree with your HR team that she should be required to use personal, compensation or vacation time. Even that, I think is extremely generous and professional. Some employers would have said, “Thanks for asking. Now you can clear out your desk and your cubicle. Here is your final paycheck. You have all the time needed to schedule your pre-employment physical.”

A mother calling about a child's employment situation is also very concerning. I must tell you this is not the first time I have heard a parent interfering with their offspring’s career. Last year, I interviewed a recent college graduate for an available position with a client. We had more than 10 very strong and qualified candidates for this one open position. My client selected a candidate who accepted the offer. Shortly after the top candidate accepted, I informed the nine unsuccessful candidates that the offer had been extended to another candidate but all the candidates interviewed were well-qualified. I then received a voicemail message. The voicemail message was from a father of one of the unsuccessful candidates. The father is a CEO of a Massachusetts company. In short, he told me that I had made a "big mistake" in not offering his son a job. The tone of his message was semi-threatening.

http://www.boston.com/jobs/news/jobdoc/2009/10/helicopter_parents_in_the_work.html

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Ok if you call the high school teacher re policy or grades disputes? Sometimes. To ask the teacher for clarification or if necessary provide clarification to the teacher. I would not have told the teacher what to do or what grade to give; but if I thought the teacher was really unreasonable I might have gone up the chain.

Ok if you call the college re policy or grades disputes? Why bother, they won't talk to us unless our kid is willing to sign a release ...but even then I wouldn't call. By then, I felt that my kids were able to handle their problems; and nothing came up that they couldn't handle.

Ok if you call the boss re policy or salary disputes? Puleeze. That's beyond helicoptering.

If I had tried calling professors or bosses, I believe my kids would have learned to stop telling me their problems. They would be mortified by such actions and inability to let go of things that were no longer my business.

Our kids learn to be responsible for their actions when they have to deal with the consequences.

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DS's middle school more or less told all parents to buzz off; it's time for the kids to fight their own battles. So it was even before HS where we pretty much let go. About the only time we talked to or emailed teachers was when ds was having trouble in a class and we asked how we could help or to get specifics of what the problem was.

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When my daughter was in high school I only ever spoke to a teacher regarding concerns over grades when my daughter asked me to. And that was really only twice in four years and the discussions were more for clarification and guidance on next steps.

Missed assignments and other disputes -- their problem. As I always tell them, if the teacher is upset at them for missing a due date its them whose impacted; not me. I have always told them that their education is about THEIR future and if they want examples of adults who didn't handle their education properly when they were young and the impact that had, I have PLENTY. One of them is their dad...

My daughter in university -- I work at a university and I can tell you we experience the helicopter parent on a DAILY basis. Most of the time its related to financial matters, and I get that, but I have to remind them on a regular basis that while I may look into an issue upon their request, my response is going to the STUDENT and not them. They have to deal with their child.

When my daughter turned 18, after saying happy birthday and celebrating, I sat down and said to her -- okay, now you are legally an adult and that means when you mess up its YOUR problem. They can't come after me anymore and I can't step in and solve it. I can help you with advice and support but I can't speak on your behalf.

Young people have to learn how to deal with these things for themselves.

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First off in the article- the mother was WAY out of line! A 23yr old should be old enough to handle her own problems- and going to your employer to ask for the day off so you can have a physical for another job?? and you get upset when they say : No???!!! - I bet this mother told her DD it was OK to ask!

 

Ok if you call the high school teacher re policy or grades disputes?

No-by HS they can handle their own disputes- both my DD & DS would sometimes complain about a grade (DD was good for this) but we always told them that this is THEIR responsibility not mine, not DH.

Ok if you call the college re policy or grades disputes?

As someone already said- a College/University isn't going to say anyway. When my DS did get into problems- he finally fessed up and we discussed the situation. Most of the problem was his (and he admitted it) so then we worked at a solution- by doing so I believe it made my DS stronger - he learned that you can "fail" but still find a way to better yourself- not all "failings" are bad- it is what helps us learn to be better.

Ok if you call the boss re policy or salary disputes?

Ha!! I would never ever even THINK to do this! And I cannot think of one employer that would say or think: "Gee I'm so glad Mommy called to discuss your performance today- so because of our talk we are giving you a raise!!"

Parents have GOT to learn to back off. By helping your adult DS / DD with EVERYTHING leads to a dependent adult - and what happens when Mommy/Daddy are no longer around to help junior fill out a form or file a form?

 

Kathy
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