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I don't know how to do this...

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Hi everyone...i am SOOOO codep.  I know this.  I've always known it...but I don't know how to break the cycle. 

I am 39 years old, have an 18 year old son...am recently separated from my husband after i found out of his affair (3rd one in 18 years).  Actually, I wasn't going to leave, or ask him to leave, but he left me. 

No explanation, just that he needed space and time. 

After a month or 6 weeks, we started talking and then spending a lot of time together again.  We are not living together. 

I am going through a really hard time right now.  I don't feel like I can move on from this.  He is my best friend in the world, and I love him still.  I don't know how to break away from him.  He still tells me he loves me and considers me his wife, etc.  blah blah blah...so, i'm still stuck here in this awful limbo and I don't know what to do about it.

I don't want to live with him again, but I can't stand the thought of letting go.  What would I do then?  I hate the thought of trying to date anyone. 

Its just not fair and I am so angry with myself.  I feel SO weak inside and I'm not!  I don't question him (or anyone for that matter).  Just accept what I am given and I know that is so lame. 

I hate ANY form of confrontation and will go out of MY way to make EVERYONE else happy instead.

This is just miserable.  I thought maybe some of you could relate a bit to my struggle.

I just feel lost and lonely and I'm sooooo incredibly shy and scared to talk to people I don't know.  UGH! 

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Keli

 

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Wow, I know it's hard, hon. I had a relationship like that with my baby's father. It was on and off a lot and I always felt very insecure around him. I could feel the abandonment so strongly that it never felt right between us.

Is it that you're both just afraid of intimacy and committment? But that you still care deeply for each other? Are you both in love and just very independent?

It just sounds very painful and uncomfortable. But there is a life beyond all that :).

It's up to you though, because deep down inside, you know what needs to be done. Let your feelings guide you through and let your inner self lead the way.

And if you pray, pray for courage and strength to do the right thing and do what's best for you.

For us to be truly happy and free, we have to learn how to be true to ourselves and not put ourselves through unbearable situations. I know it's hard, and I've been there. I don't like it when someone is upset with me and I feel guilty for saying no sometimes.

Do you just want more from your H? Or do you feel that it's just time to let go and move on?

I would write down how you feel and why. Writing is very powerful, because when thoughts are on paper, the truth is revealed a lot of the time :).

And I would make a list of the options to deal with him and the pros and cons of each. I've made very important decisions that way :).

Being single for a little while isn't as bad as one may think :). The best thing about it is that you can do things your way and be where you want to be anytime you want :). It doesn't have to be lonely either, because that's what friends and family are for :).

I personally would rather be single than with someone who isn't healthy for me. I've been having a hard time with men lately, too. But now, it's very karmic, because the ones I've gone out with all wanted to own me and depended on me way too much for their self esteem and happiness.

There's a fine line between codepedency and love, lol. I'm finding that it all has to do with motives. If the motives are unselfishness, honest, pure and loving, there's nothing wrong with doing things to show affection. And if the feelings are there, there's reasons behind the feelings. Do the feelings have to do with the ego or the heart?

And I'm not telling you to break up with him right away. Or even to break up with him at all. It's all up to you, because it's your life path and you're in charge of your happiness :).

Letting someone go is a loss and it has to be grieved out. But when the pain is gone, there's a whole new beginning involved, with hope, love and plenty of blessings.

We're here for you, anytime you want to post :). It's really good to just get everything out :).

If you choose to stay with him, there's going to have to be some boudaries. You just have to be open and  hoenst with him about what you're willing to do and what you're not willing to do.

And if he doesn't respect your boundaries, that's another red flag.

If you choose to break up with him, it's going to be hard to end it completely. He's going to keep coming back and it may be hard for him to take No for an answer.

It's really hard to end codependent relationships, because the person who has the need to control can be very strong willed. And when there's a strong ego involved, it makes it even worse.

But codependency really is more about ego than love. And it's more about need than anything else. That's why it's considered an addiction, probably.

You'll be fine :). No matter what happens, there's going to be some learning and you'll end up being very blessed when you do what you need to do to be true to yourself :).

Hugs :),

SK

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You are such a young woman, you have a lot of years ahead of you, and instead of living the way you have been......miserable and unhappy......think about the fact that you can spend the future in a better place........dependent on no one but yourself, looking for happiness WITHIN yourself, and finding out what a wonderful world it is out there.

The first thing I have to tell you is that you STOP worrying about "dating" someone else.  You aren't ready to worry about that, you have a long way to go before you even think about that. 

First, you need to talk to a lawyer about your options.  You need to think about your finances, what you will get, what you will need, etc.  You need to think about where you will live.  You need to think about a job, if you're not working already.  You need to think about the independence that is coming your way.  The fact that you can do what you WANT to do, and you don't need to worry about what he thinks or wants.  You need to think about the fact that probably for the first time in your life you can be an ADULT........and make your own decisions about your life.

You feel dependent because you've been looking to him to make you happy.....and obviously, he hasn't done that.  Now is the time to learn that you need to make yourself happy.......it all comes from within you.  It can be a wonderful life, if that's what YOU make it.

As for your soon to be ex.......he's had 3 affairs during your marriage.......which means he's a serial cheater.  Of course he's "making nice" now.......because whether you realize it or not, he's JUST as dependent on you as you are on him.  The only difference is that he's had the freedom to have affairs.....and you haven't.  He's being nice now, because his latest affair means nothing to him.  He knows it won't last, and he wants you waiting for him to come back and be a husband.  Next thing you know, he'll do it again, and you'll be in the same position you're in now.  YOU have to end the cycle.......he will never do it.

You have to take charge of your life, and do what you have to do.  For starters, find yourself a good lawyer, and find out what your state says you're entitled to......and make your plans from there.  You can only be dependent on another person when you're afraid to depend on yourself.  Get some backbone, and decide that YOU will be in charge of your life from here on out!  Good Luck!

PS:  I speak from experience.......I was where you are right now, except that I had 3 sons, 10 to 17.  I was also 39.  He left, as he had many times before.  He was really clever, he'd try to start a fight on Friday, so that he could walk out, and have the whole weekend with his current "friend".  But this time was different.....I'd had enough of it, and so when he came back Sunday night, I had his clothes in garbage bags outside the door.  The door was locked, and I told him to take his clothes, and keep going.  He was in shock.......because he thought he would be able to walk all over me forever.  We were separated for over a year before the divorce went to court.....and the night before he came and BEGGED me to take him back.  He even CRIED!  I don't know where I got the strenghth, but I told him to forget it.  Once he realized that I really meant it, that I would REALLY go thru with it......guess what he told me?  He said "ok, then I have to tell you I'm getting married"!  I laughed in his face because I thought that he was just trying to upset me.....last ditch effort.  But NO, he actually was married within a couple of months......and all I could think was.......she is welcome to him......and I never looked back.  Understand that HE, as well as your husband, was also very dependent on ME......as your husband is dependent on you.  He THINKS you will be there forever, no matter how crappy he treats you.  Start taking care of YOU, and get your act together, and get out.

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Hi Keli - how are you doing today?

 
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