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WHY NC MEANS NC

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  Nov-6 4:40 pm

Came across this today and wanted to share...

You’d think that a wayward spouse would be so aware of his or her weakness and so aware of the pain inflicted that he or she would be thoughtful enough to make every effort to avoid further contact with the lover. Instead, the wayward spouse often argues that the relationship was “only sexual” or was “only emotional, but not sexual” or some other peculiar description to prove that continued contact with the lover would be okay.

Most betrayed spouses intuitively understand the danger and demand that all contact with a lover end for life. Permanent separation not only helps prevent a renewal of the affair, but it is also a crucial gesture of consideration to the betrayed spouse.

In spite of career sacrifices, friendships, and issues relating to children’s schooling, I recommend with all seriousness that there be a sudden and complete end to an affair. And I recommend extreme measures to ensure total separation for life from a former lover.

Several years ago, I owned and operated ten chemical dependency treatment clinics. At first, we used several different treatment strategies. For some, we tried to encourage moderation, and for others we tried to achieve total abstinence. It wasn’t long before all the counselors agreed that total abstinence was the only way to save drug or alcohol addicts from their self-destructive behavior.

Unless they completely abandoned the object of their addiction, the addiction usually returned. For these people, moderation was impossible. The conviction that their drug of choice was off-limits to them for life, helped end their cycle of addiction-treatment-addiction.

My strategy for ending an affair with total separation from the lover developed after my experience treating addicts. And, over the years, I’ve found my total-separation strategy to be very effective in ending affairs in a way that makes marital recovery possible. Without total separation, marital recovery is almost impossible.

An affair is a very powerful addiction. The craving to be with the lover can be so intense that objective reality doesn’t have much of a chance. The fact that a spouse and children may be permanently injured by this cruel indulgence doesn’t seem to matter. All that matters is spending more time with the lover. That makes it an addiction.

Even the one-night stand may be an addiction. It may not be an addiction to a particular lover, but it may still be an addiction—to one-night stands. In affairs that have low emotional attachment, the addiction is often to the act of having sex itself, rather than to a particular lover.

The addiction to one-night stands can also grow from a need to be continually assured of one’s attractiveness. People who indulge in such practices want to feel that they can have anyone they want, even that person over there sitting at the bar. These people who need constant reassurance of their attractiveness must learn some other way to gain that assurance—a way that does not destroy their marriage.

The analogy between chemical addiction and an affair is striking. In both cases, the first step toward recovery is admitting that the addiction is self-destructive and harmful to those whom the addict cares for most—his or her family.

After recognizing the need to overcome the addiction, the next step is to suffer through the symptoms of withdrawal. Addicts are often admitted to a hospital or treatment program during the first few weeks of withdrawal to ensure total separation from the addicting substance.

The way to overcome an addiction is tried and proven—abstain from the object of addiction. Alcoholics, for example, must completely avoid contact with any alcoholic beverage to gain control over their addictive behavior. They must avoid places where alcohol is likely to be found, such as bars and parties. They must even avoid friends who drink occasionally in their presence. They must surround themselves with an alcohol-free environment. In the same way, when a wayward spouse separates from the lover, extraordinary precautions must be taken to avoid all contact with the lover—for life.

Of course, my advice is not easy to implement. Many people who have had an affair try but fail to make a drastic and decisive break with their lover

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WHY NC MEANS NC

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  Nov-6 5:17 pm

This is my first day on the board...my d-day was about 3 weeks ago after confiding in DH. 

But my question here is...after reading a few messages on this board (and other boards) about NC...does anyone HATE their xAP and really not want contact with them?

Reason I say that is...my A lasted about 6 months, mostly being E and some P as in kissing but nothing more.  I ended it in June, remained friends up until early October and have had NC since.  We are co-workers which makes it hard, even though he works in a different department.  But after reading through some of the messages I see how many people are having a hard time having NC with an xAP.  But every situation is different and after realizing how used I was...I HATE him!

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WHY NC MEANS NC

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  Nov-7 5:26 am

Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU! for posting this!

This sentence really stuck out for me:  "An affair is a very powerful addiction. The craving to be with the lover can be so intense that objective reality doesn’t have much of a chance. The fact that a spouse and children may be permanently injured by this cruel indulgence doesn’t seem to matter. All that matters is spending more time with the lover. That makes it an addiction."

Because what I am doing now is something I would never ever accept from myself before.  I frown at people that do what I do! But my affair is a drug; its my addiction.  I know he's got a family and a newborn baby but I just can't separate myself from him.

How do you deal with the withdrawals?  When I don't hear from him i start to shiver, and my heart rate goes way up so does my blood pressure... I feel like a drug addict going thru withdrawal! its crazy.  I only calm down when I hear from him... I wish they had clinics for people trying to leave their AP. lol

 

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WHY NC MEANS NC

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  Nov-9 1:43 pm

i always said that about myself, that altho i did drink a lot (only 2 a wk, but when i drank, i drank fast to forget and i drank alot), that the sex and the whole A thing was my addiction of choice.  i became addicted to the person.  he was my drug.  i Hated not hearing from him, not seeing him for wks a time, but as long as i heard from him not seeing him for lengths (which rarely went over 2 wks) seemed to calm me down.  as long as i thought i knew what was going on with him (i never really knew bc i wasnt his W, i didnt live with him, he could have been lying to me about anything).  we were going strong in July, then he had a stroke.  then i had to leave him alone (oh and i did).  i had no choice, i was forced out of the A.  and the less and less i got of him (eventually down to nothing due to his health) the less i wanted.  so when he wasnt around at all, i found that i was okay, that NOT having sex every day or more than once a day was okay.  slowly i realized that i was going through withdrawals and it was okay.  i hated it, i got sick thinking that maybe this is really over, but i knew it was only in God's hands and that helped me through.  in the midst of our A, when he came around less and less (about a year ago) i was sooo addicted to the A that i sought out someone i worked with,in a diff dept, to have an A with.  i needed the attention, the constant reassurance that someone else wanted/needed me even if it was just for sex.  it feeded what i needed inside.  at one point, i was with 3 diff people besides DH.  what i didnt get from one, i got from another, and what i didnt get from them i got from another and so forth....  my addiction was soo bad but as #1 came around more (i have no idea why, maybe his W wasnt giving him any more, or maybe they were fighting alot, maybe he was bored, point is i dont really know) i tended not to need #2 and #3 as much, so eventually i got rid of #3.  i didnt see #2 as much but i still needed him to fill in the gaps where/when #1 wasnt around or available.  i had much more freedom with #2 texting and calling and could see him more than #1. 

but now ive been away from #1 for over 3 months and he has not called me, he did call me last Thurs to let me know i can come over to visit him with/without my husband.  just so he can look at me.  so then i realized that i didnt need #2 either so i told him.  we saw each other once, think it was about a wk ago.  and that was it.  i had my sex "fix" with him and thats all.  #1 is my true addiction and even as i post things about not needing him anymore (ive worked so much on my M) i fear that bc of the sexual energy we had, the need i had with him to just talk about anything, etc. that i wont be able to stay abstinent from him for long.  sure its easy when he s not around, doesnt call, etc.  but i fear that once he starts calling again, emailing me again, that i'll get weak and give in again....  i'll hear his voice and want him again.  i could tell him no (as i intend to) but he knows (i have told him in the past) that he is my one true weakness.  his skin, his voice, his big hands....  how he does everything i want him to (obviously things i do not get at home).  he KNOWS how to get to me, how to get me to give in.  one breath from him in my ear and its all over, esp if he ever touches my neck....  he'll know i want him, i'll crave him and the more i'll get from him, i'll want from him. 

i really want to end things with him.  but i know he will call me again (not sure when but he WILL).  i am def in his Ws good graces again.  i told her if she needed anything or needed me to take the kids somewhere like to the park or movies, or in town for some time, to get a break to just give me a  call.  she no longer fears that i am with her H (hasnt for about a good yr now).  she smiles genuinely at me again, hugs me again like she means it.  we didnt have a D-Day per se, but had what i call a C-Day (confrontation day).  she never knew we were together but suspected it and called me on it.  that was about a month or so after we started having a PA.  so like 2 years ago.  and took her about a yr for her to fully forgive me and act totally normal towards me again. 

i dont want to get sucked back in by him and my weaknesses for him.  this will be really hard.  i will tell him (not sure when) that i am happy at home and dont need him anymore.  but the more i will see him in regular circumstances (in the store, rarely but does happy, church and church functions) i will yearn for him once again.  i pray that i will remain strong.  you would think after him almost dying, that he would say to him, "hmm.  maybe i should stop and focus on my family, i mean i did almost die.".  HIM- nope.  i should have figured, i should have known that it was only a matter of time before he'd start thinking of me and what we had.  i think he's addicted to me too.  so how do you deal with 2 addicts that are addicted to each other?  and me being completely shut off from him, well that will NEVER happen.  he's too much a part of my life and my DHs life and DHs family's life.  i'd run into him eventually and the feelings, the yearnings will always be there. ALWAYS.  darn....

~k
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  Nov-9 6:46 pm

Hi Lynn,

I haven't been on in a while and I'm trying to go back and catch up on posts that I missed.

This is a great post.

Please....please....please...add it to the Healing Library.

I've encouraged a few other posters to add their's to the Healing Library...but they never do...I'm sad when that happens because I know that what they have written will get lost in the General section but if it is put in the Healing Library it will continue to help people...so please add it.

You can always blame me and say I twisted your arm or something

Much love and big hugs,

E1

Whether you think you can or you think you cant you are probably right.

A parrot can repeat what it has learned but the mark of true intelligence is applying what is learned.

 

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