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A look behind his eyes got me thinking

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  Oct-7 12:39 pm

I saw something in my H eyes yesterday that got me thinking, I decided to bring these thoughts here to see what came of them.. Now lets see if I can write this in away that makes sense..

Rebuilding or even ending a M takes two people, one can not let go with out the other if either is going to truly be successful, in my opinion.  So I was thinking from my POV as the BS it has been about forgiveness and faith in what once was, that drove me to wanting to rebuild. I knew my motives from day one where as his well they have never been clear to me. When I got to the point that I wanted to be free from the pain and the lack of compassion in my M my H held on tight. Showed vulnerability and truly did his best to make me see our M as something worth fighting for. So again I went to battle to help save this drowning M. Again my motivation was about forgiveness and faith in what once was.

The look in my H eyes told a story that I had never seen before. For the first time in all the years I have known him I saw I very sad person looking back at me. True confusion and pain behind those eyes. Yet masked with an anger that was also hard to avoid. I asked him what was going on behind those eyes and he stated that he has spent all these years trying to heal me and our M and I never see his effort instead I focus on his lack of whatever.

So it got me to thinking how many of us have felt the focus is on what is lacking rather then what is plentiful? How many of us with those feelings have decided that D was the best option and why? Is it that we can only see our own pain? That some how negates the feelings of our spouse no matter what side they are on? Or is it that we tip toe around such pain to avoid truly having to face it and with it the consequences that follow??

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A look behind his eyes got me thinking

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  Oct-7 7:50 pm

You're thinking deep thoughts, wow.  Which inspired deep thoughts of my own, not neccessarily the same as yours, so bear with me, I suppose.

I mean, I saw sadness in my husband's eyes for over a year before he ultimately strayed.  There are no words that might truly convey the fear I endured during that time, fear for him, fear he was lost and confused and I simply could not save him from it.  I would beg him to talk to someone, anyone, just get some help.  But this was years before admitting to something as ugly as Post Traumatic Stress was really "done" by tough, capable soldiers.  No, they "sucked it up" and then "drove on", so he would insist, insist, insist that he was okay, he was fine, he was all right.  One time he actually looked at me, angrily, and said, "My only problem is you constantly asking me about my problems!" 

But I knew he was hurting.  I could see it, in his eyes.  He was so completely lost.  He wasn't sleeping and when he did manage to fall asleep he would wake up with nightmares.  He would rage, throwing things across the room at the slightest provocation.  He was critical and caustic alot of the time.  He was distant, far apart from me even when we sat there together in the same room.  I often felt I just couldn't reach him, as if I wasn't even there nor even noticed let alone appreciated.  About a year ago, I got ahold of a movie we use to emphasize PTSD to soldiers coming home from the war and there's a scene that depicts a wife asking her soldier what it is she can do, her hands reaching out to him, and he doesn't even look at her, just yells out how he doesn't need anything and "leave me alone", and every time I show that movie to the Joes my eyes turn glassy with unshed tears, because I can remember being that wife.

My husband's affair was like a final, devastating blow to a year's worth of pain and upset.  It almost broke me completely.  I remember raging at him, on D-Day, how "damn unfair is it, I stood by you through all the crap, and this is how you treat me, this is how you respond, my god".  I felt so utterly demoralized through my betrayal, so dang broken.  It was beyond impossible for me to really, truly empathize with his pain in that immediate, yes.  Because I had been hurting, too, for a long long time.  I had struggled with the loneliness and the fear.  The sadness in my husband's eyes hadn't been the only sadness our marriage suffered, anyway.  I certainly wasn't happy while my husband was so sad.  To be betrayed after all of that, after standing by and hurting for so long a time, I was just utterly broken-up inside.  I almost totally withdrew from him, like wrapping my heart up into a load of gauze he couldn't cut his way through, beyond afraid of being hurt even a little bit more.  I felt if even once more I was treated that badly, I would just shatter into a million pieces and be no more, so I acted much of the time like I was in some sort of wild self-protective mode.  A constant "Red Alert", where one wrong move could result in a wild flailing of defensive strike back's so that we ended up on a terribly uncomfortable and fine fine line all of the time.

Logically and consciously I knew he was hurting, mind you.  I always understood that.  I even appreciated so much of his behavior was, itself, a sort of strike back against the pain he was feeling, so that I was just caught up in a kind of cross-fire or tornado of devastation.  It wasn't he didn't care about me, nor even that he didn't want me.  It's just he was that lost, that frustrated, so there was no base, no foundation, and we were caught up in a huge maelstrom of pain and upset.  I logically understood all of that.  I just couldn't change it, not when I was in that much pain.  I was hurting too much, had nothing to cling to or count on.  I depended, in fact, on nothing more tremendous than hope -- hope that things would settle into a balance or peace once again at some point down the road.  But the road stretched out in front of me and the end was so distant I too often felt angry and frustrated more than caring and loving.

Ultimately, I accepted it.  I accepted those were my feelings and feelings change.  No matter how long it took, I wouldn't feel that way forever.  I just had to be patient, I just had to keep moving, I just couldn't give up.  Eventually, I wasn't so bitter, so angry, and I was better able to reach out to him again.  I discovered real forgiveness, a huge process that required an immense number of days and weeks and months.  But it did come.  When it did was when I was better able to soothe that sadness in his eyes.  Which itself became a long long process.  He had to forgive himself and that took longer a time than my own forgiveness required, anyway. 

About a year before he deployed to Iraq -- which sent me into a tailspin of fearful anxiety we would suffer a similar travail, mind you -- he traveled north for some NCO training.  I drove up there to retrieve him after he graduated, and we ended up discussing that first deployment of his, the one that sent him spiraling into depression.  I admitted how scared I was he would struggle like that again through another deployment.  And he looked over at me, reached out to stroke my cheek, and said to me, "You were the best and strongest wife any soldier could ever hope for and you will never know how much I regret hurting you the way I did..it will never happen again, I promise."  He swore he would seek help, would talk to anyone and everyone he could talk to, even if he felt he was perfectly fine, if only I wouldn't be afraid.  And when he came home from Iraq, that's precisely what he did, went down to the behavioral health folks and said how he needed to talk, just talk, only to be perfectly sure he was okay and all right, because, he said, "my wife needs to know I care that much for her."  His eyes aren't so sad anymore.  He says it's because of me, because I remained his homebase, his security blanket; I was the one he could count on, I didn't give up on him.  I myself don't really care about all of that, I'm just glad that when I look into his eyes, I see gladness and pleasing again. 

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"I won’t be wronged. I won’t be insulted. I won’t be laid a-hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." -- John Wayne, "The Shootist", 1976

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A look behind his eyes got me thinking

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  Oct-7 10:14 pm

Your thread really applies to any relationship .. regardless if there is any rebuilding going on .. it is appropriate for all stages of a relationship. 

I have recently been dealing with these types of questions privately and trying to ascertain what is going on inside of me.  I have been subjected to a horrible organized harassment over the last 7 years (the conspired to do terrible things to me and my body and my property)   and I have been basically in hiding to avoid as much trauma as possible. 

The man who I am in love with and I .. dont really speak the same language (figuratively speaking)  at this point (because our lives have been so different) and much of our trouble is the result of this .. however .. I do sense some control issues, some "you dont know what you are dealing with" issues from him (because he is trying to help me) .. and while I am trying to free myself from this (and have been since day 1 of me realizing what happened to me) .. he has his own initiatives going on and .. our different styles and initiatives have clashed from time to time.

I am so traumatized from everything I have gone through .. that the slightest offense from ANYONE sets me off .. not just him.  I am so conditioned to smack back (figuratively)  .. that it just happens automatically.  

But I can tell he is not feeling as appreciated for what he IS doing as he should be .. and that is not right of me to do to him.  There are lots of things he is probably doing right .. but I dont know everything .. cuz .. HE doesnt wish to tell me too much right now .. so .. what do I do?  I can only focus on what he IS showing me out there .. and some of it is very hurtful.  And I feel cheated and I feel he is cheating because some of what he is doing puts him in compromising positions with women .. and I have no tolerance for men who put themselves in compromising positions .. because that is the FIRST step to cheating .. not acknowledging that those situations should be eliminated.

So what I have been doing is trying to find the good and let him know when I feel proud of him .. like .. making sure that when he was speaking to a Julie lately .. he had a friend with him .. nice move on his part.  that was smart thinking.

However, I do also sense some pain in him for what he has done .. guilt . .and not realizing the impact his actions have had on me .  For instance .. he himself has not come down here to see me to make sure that i am in one piece .. he is relying on my mother's opinion and word .. and she is really not the best person to rely on because I can tell she just really doesnt want to look too hard .. maybe her own guilt.  So . .in my mind .. why does a man who doesnt want to make sure I am okay .. want to even marry me?  I dont understand his line of thinking .. that's all.  But I think he is also angry at himself .. for not realizing the implications of all of his actions.  But we will discuss this all when he arrives one day.

So it got me to thinking how many of us have felt the focus is on what is lacking rather then what is plentiful?

I have done it because .. in my particular situation I feel as though I am flooding inside with betrayal and hurt and fear .. mainly because law enforcement has not done a good job in putting the criminals in jail and my friends and family have pretty much abandoned me and my second exhusband became brainwashed and manipulated by these criminals and pretty much served me up on a silver platter to them.  All because of fraud and greed.  So .. because I am so flooded with all of these unresolved emotions (crime is still going on .. so defense and adrenaline is what I work with emotionally all the time).

Is it that we can only see our own pain? That some how negates the feelings of our spouse no matter what side they are on?

Yes, everyone only sees their own pain, their own outcome and people in general have a hard time trying to put themselves in another person's shoes.

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A look behind his eyes got me thinking

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  Oct-16 2:19 pm

phyreblade, your post made me cry. I am saying a prayer for you and your DH that you make it through this. I hope that you are sharing your story with other military wives who might be going through this kind of pain. My DH was also in a war torned third world country when he had his A. I had always thought of my DH as so strong but what I realized is that it is our unity that makes him strong. He is my rock but I am his also. We need each other. We make each other strong and it is our bond which helps each other through the hard times. We are broken without each other and we are a powerhouse together.

When I look into my DH beautiful eyes, I see t he pain that he feels because of what he did to me. I know they hurt and it is that hurt which caused them to hurt us.

We must love them through their pain and stand by their side letting them know that they can depend on us through it all.

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