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Steve Philips Affair,thoughts on letter

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Ok.  I'm sure all of you have heard about Steve Philips of ESPN and the letter his OW wrote to his W, that (somehow) was published (that seems a little fishy, but...) 

If you haven't read the letter, here is a link:    http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2009/10/21/news/media/lettermistresstowifea.pdf

What are your thoughts on the letter?  What does it say to you?  If you are the OW, would you have sent it?  If you are the BS, would you have wanted to receive it?

SC

 

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  Oct-21 10:59 am

I hadn't heard about this, so followed the link.

Wow.

Lots of things spring to mind immediately.  (Some of them actually really bad words!)

A 22 year old dumbass who thinks that she's got all the power in this situation...

She's in for quite a rude awakening here.  Quite.

I can't really imagine that anyone would want a letter like that one.  Wanting to know for sure is one thing.  But that letter was only designed to hurt and wound as viciously as possible.

I can't imagine anyone would welcome that, even if it does fill in some pieces for them.

Kim

 

What you are will show in what you do. ~ Thomas Edison

 

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Steve Philips Affair,thoughts on letter

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  Oct-21 12:02 pm

OMG - OMG - OMG - (and those are the nicest words that come to my mind!!)

I had not heard about this either - and coming from an OW perspective - I am STILL shocked and appalled that someone would do that.  She may be 22 - but that's still no freakin excuse.

I did talk to BFs STBXW and answer her questions honestly - but she approached ME - I certainly never would have done something like this.  Good Lord - yeah - I'm with Kim - this girl is in for quite a rude awakening in many ways.

And oh - BTW - the fact that he's had affairs in the past - and then went on to have two more children - this OW is not getting any prize here - that's for damn sure.  Not that I believe she is going to 'GET' him anyway - I think she's actually gonna 'get' thrown under the bus - but she certainly opened herself up to it.

I am very interested to know how someone got hold of this letter in the first place - I'm with you, fishy indeed.

Whew - just sitting here shaking my head - I'm sure I'll think of lots more later - but interested to see where this goes I guess.

Thanks SC for the thread - what a mess huh??

Hugs!

Lynn ;)

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Steve Philips Affair,thoughts on letter

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Brings back vivid memories, actually.  I still remember things she said, anyway.  Ten years after the fact.  It went like:

"It was so sweet, to lie in his arms after we made love.  We talked about the place we'd have together once he was divorced."
"He loves you but isn't in love with you."
"If it wasn't for you getting pregnant, he never would've married you."
"Why don't you just get a divorce so he can be happy?"

Actually, there were very few real details of my marriage with him.  Nothing of the arguments we'd had, places we'd gone, moments we'd shared.  The single glaring mention of the fact we had children was that I'd been pregnant when we said our vows, as well as my capability to take care of our kids "after" he'd divorced me.  The letter was, in fact, my means of discovery, it's how I finally understood what had really happened.

That knowing is something I will never be sorry for, SC.  I am beyond gratified I really did know I was betrayed.  Understanding was what freed me to make proactive motions towards change, one way or another, motions that helped in my healing rather than furthering my pain, confusion, and frustration.  All that, and I will always abhor the sheer ugly manipulative disrespect the OW's letter demonstrated, because it showed more clearly than anything that, to her, I wasn't real.  I was A THING, to be shoved aside, forced away; I wasn't real, my feelings didn't matter, my hopes were unimportant, my dreams didn't count, not to her.  I was made out to be little more than an impediment.

Ultimately, though, the fact she had to use such a desperate measure as my knowing to entice him back proved several very valuable understandings to me:
(1)  She wasn't as certain of his feelings and care as she tried to declare to me, so how certain were they really.
(2)  She was utterly unimportant, had not an iota of control, over whether or not my marriage succeeded or failed; it was always ours to chart the course of.
(3)  She saw me as something of a threat to be attacked and minimalized; she was scared of the bonds I shared with him, enough she had to try and destroy them.
(4)  She was pathetic in her desperation, and I felt sorry for her.

In the end, I am still his wife, he is still my husband, and our marriage ten years later is everything I ever hoped for; I'm blissfully happy today.  I say that as he looks over at me and grins that silly grin of his, the one that says he's glad simply to see me, here.  Life is good, I'm okay.

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Steve Philips Affair,thoughts on letter

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  Oct-21 4:56 pm

standing,

All of the details are much scarier if you go directly to the NYpost site and read the statements from Steve, his wife and son too. If all of these details are true--and are not just a way for Steve and his wife to save face publicly--then the girl is seriously disturbed and in great denial as to the true nature of the relationship.

Even if she's not, it appears like a desperate and manipulative attempt to undermine his marriage. And she has unfortunately succeeded on that front--according to the Post, Mrs. Philips has filed for divorce.

Can't say I blame her since he appears to be a serial cheater.

It never crossed my mind to do anything so hurtful, so calculated, so ugly to xAP's W. He and I both agreed and were commited to respecting each other's need to make decisions about our marriages independent of the other, knowing full well we might take different paths. Which we did.

And truly, behavior like this wouldn't do much to an endear one to their AP. If anything, it would push him or her away and back to the M.

Crazy story.

Don't hold to anger, hurt or pain. They steal your energy and keep you from love.       ~Anonymous
           

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