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I met a man two years ago through our association at work.  We had dinner one night and that led into a relationship that started to develop fairly quickly.  He had been divorced 5 years prior to our meeting and had yet to have seen any other women.  He has two sons who were aged 16 and 19 when we met.  He explained to me that both the boys were reluctant to have any other people in either of their parents lives but that he hoped in time they would “come around” to the concept.  He told me that his siblings thought that he coddled them too much on this subject, but he didn’t want to lose them and was afraid that confronting them with the issue of another woman in his life might cause that to happen.  (Apparently there was an issue with one of the boys encountering a date of his mother’s and reacting very badly)  I accepted his explanation and hoped that sooner rather than later this issue would be resolved. He told me that he had fallen in love twice in his life the first time with his wife, and the second with me.  As time progressed, the relationship was still not moving forward.  When we got together, he would say things like “I want to wake up with you every morning” etc but “I just have to get through right now”  He also often related conversations with other people referring to his girlfriend (me) but I had still never met anyone in his family and no one we work with knew anything about us.  He and I spoke on the telephone at least once a day, but physical contact was limited to once every few months  (Both of us travel extensively for work and live 308 miles apart, so logistically it has been tough)  This past May, I was kidnapped, sexually assaulted, and robbed at gunpoint.  He was very supportive and immediately offered to come.  I told him no (I didn’t want him to have to interrupt his work week, both boys are in college and I know the financial burden he is under) we met for a day shortly thereafter in a location about half way between us.  But, the rest of the summer went by without seeing each other.  Both boys were home from school and there was the added pressure for him of having a father who had been diagnosed with terminal cancer and was beginning to decline rapidly.  He came out for a wedding in late September and we finally were able to spend three nights together.  He was very warm and loving (even held my hand in church) immediately afterward his father took a rapid turn for the worse and he went to be with him for a week.  He indicated (via text) that his contact with me would be intermittent since his mind/attention was there and there alone.  I had no contact at all that week from him.  I sent an email offering my support and called on Friday night.  Finally I received a text on Sat saying that “Have received your messages, appreciate your thoughts and prayers, I don’t want to talk, spending the weekend with my sons and then going back to be with my father”  I understood his pain but was somewhat shocked at being so shut out; I replied that my prayers would continue.  On Sunday he texted me that his father had passed away and that he was going back and would be there all week.  Again I replied with my condolences.  Heard nothing from him all week (understandable).  Finally, in desperation I called Monday and left a message on his voice mail.  I expressed the pain I felt for him and also for myself because he was totally shutting me out.  I received a call a couple of hours later from him.  In a totally impassionate tone of voice he informed me that his time and energy were totally used up taking care of his siblings, sons, and the other grandchildren and dealing with the estate etc.  He said he was trying to be the man his father would have wanted him to be.  He said that he didn’t know how he would feel about any relationships when this was over.  He said he hadn’t been talking to anybody, not just me (I’m anybody?)  Lastly, he said that he would try to stay in contact.  So, here I sit feeling hurt, angry, confused and alone.  Throughout our relationship his unwillingness to include me in all of his life has bothered me greatly, but he always said enough right things to keep me believing that not only would it change but that he truly loved me.  Other people that saw him with me would comment to me that it was clear that he adored me.  So, here’s my question: Have I been completely fooled?  Did he ever care for me?  Is he that good a liar?  Or, is it reasonable that his father’s death truly has had such an impact on him that it is causing this dramatic change in behavior.  What is the best course of action for me to take at this point?  Back off completely or continue to attempt to reach out? 

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So, here’s my question:  Several questions :)

Have I been completely fooled? No, you seemed to know all along that something was not right.  Did he ever care for me? Perhaps, but not in the way you want him to.  If you are asking that question, it's obvious something is not feeling right.  If it doesn't feel right, it isn't right.  Is he that good a liar?  Apparently.  Or, is it reasonable that his father’s death truly has had such an impact on him that it is causing this dramatic change in behavior. I doubt it.  What is the best course of action for me to take at this point? Move on with your life.  Back off completely or continue to attempt to reach out?  Back off completely.

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I hate to be the one to bring this up, but, has it crossed your mind that he is NOT divorced? That he has been married all along? That was the first thing that popped into my mind when I read your post.
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I'm about 100% certain he is divorced.  first of all I have been to his house on several occasions and there is no evidence of female presence.  Secondly, we have friends/co-workers in common and unless he has lied to all of them......
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Wow frootloopy, you have been through a lot! You were kidnapped, robbed and assaulted? I can't imagine what that must have been like for you. You are no doubt a true survivor. To answer the question in your title, you shouldn't "have known" this outcome anymore than you should have known you would be attacked. I mean, if any of us had a crystal ball we'd live our lives a whole lot differently, right?

So, here’s my question: Have I been completely fooled?

I don't think so, but it doesn't matter even if you were. Your intentions were in the right place, to find a relationship with someone that you connected with and loved. You can't ever truly know what his intentions were, if this was a sudden decision or had been coming for a while. None of it changes the present circumstances so let's assume you are not a fool and stick with that.

Did he ever care for me? Is he that good a liar? Or, is it reasonable that his father’s death truly has had such an impact on him that it is causing this dramatic change in behavior.

These are the sort of questions you could stress over for months and never find out the answers to. So let's assume that if he showed caring behaviors towards you that meant he truly cared for you - a very reasonable assumption to make on our part. Let's also assume he's not lying, unless you have specific knowledge he lied about something in particular.

I'll tell you my guess for the impact his father's death had - it's just speculation really. Personally it sounds like he wasn't truly ready to move on to a serious relationship. I'll bet he loved you but lacked the ability to commit. If he had the ability and desire to commit he would have wanted his son's to get over it and his family to know about and meet you, at least eventually. This is a totally separate thing than love or caring, and it's consistent with what we know. He made efforts to be near you and be with you, but no efforts to commit. And without commitment the relationship can only go so far. So, it wasn't going anywhere and that's been true for a while, right? And now with the added stress of his father's death and his family turmoil and financial pressures from having a college age child, he is no longer able to maintain a relationship that isn't going anywhere. That's my "theory" unproven as it may be. You know the situation better than any of us ever will, so let me know if that fits or not.

What is the best course of action for me to take at this point? Back off completely or continue to attempt to reach out?

I wouldn't keep reaching out. It hasn't worked so far and there's no reason at this point to think that will change. My advice would be to pick up the pieces, re-evaluate your life and what you want in a relationship and go forward from there, without him. I'm sorry, I know it's painful to lose the support and closeness of someone you loved. The only consolation I can offer is this kind of pain only lasts so long and the only place to go from here is up.

"The last of human freedoms - the ability to chose one's attitude in a given set of circumstances. " - Viktor Frankl.

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