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Not knowing who you REALLY are.

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Have any of you really struggled mentally with the question of religion and what you were brought up to believe compared to what you feel drawn to?  

What do you do if you have been raised in one religion, searched and searched many others but just sort of "settled" for what you know and feel comfortable with?  I am referring to Catholicism.  but since I was a teenager i have felt especially drawn to learning more about Wicca. 

This has been especially troubling to me for the past 12 years because I am feeling basically not wanted in the church.  I divorced and remarried a man who is not Catholic.  So, I am not alowed to take Communion and according to my parish priest I am not even supposed to be allowed to go to confession, etc.   They consider me to be in a state of "adultery" as they consider my husband to still be married to his 1st wife! 

I have read alot about Wicca and I feel very drawn to learning more about it and wanting to meet others who feel the same.   But I don't understand what is holding me back or what I am scared of.    I guess also I am tired of being made to feel like I am a 2nd class citizen because I am divorced and I also don't ever want my 2 younger children I still have at home be ever made to feel that way also. 

How do you, or did you get past these irrational fears and just become who you truly are?

 

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Yes, I got over it.

I was raised Lutheran. When I started asking God to make me what he wanted me to be, and to know him better, is when I started being drawn to neopagan and Wiccan things. They started popping up all over. The more I learned, the more I felt like I was "home". It just seemed more real.

Part of this was because of my kids, too. One of then sees auras & ghosts. I didn't want the church telling her she's evil. She isn't. If these abilities come from your creator, I don't think someone (especially a kid) should be blamed for them.

It took awhile, but now the teachings of the Lutheran church-(Missouri Synod), just seem silly to me. Talk to the one you've always prayed to. Ask for guidance from Him / Her.

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I wasn't raised in any religion. I was raised agnostic, taught to question everything. So I wasn't raised to fear going to hell, etc. And my views of religion were soured from an early age when I learned that my mother had been excommunicated from the Catholic church when an early first marriage ended in divorce. In the the church's eyes it was better for her to have remained in an abusive marriage than get a divorce and save her life.

I began to search for my spiritual path in my teens. I tried on several paths and continued going back to Paganism. However, others have told me that the legends of ancient civilizations were simply myths and that no one actually believed in the old God/desses. Yet I continued to return to the deities of my ancestors, becoming more and more drawn to them. Then I discovered two books that would change my life: Margot Adler's Drawing Down the Moon and Starhawk's The Spiral Dance. I realized that there were lots of others out there who believed what I did and who followed the old God/desses. That's when I dedicated myself to the Pagan path.

Once I said "yes" to Paganism it was easy for me from then on. I know that for a lot of women who were raised in a monotheistic religion it is difficult to follow the God because of all the God the Father stuff. But I wasn't raised with preconceived ideas so it's as easy for me to follow the God as it is to follow the Goddess. I imagine that for someone raised as a Christian it is difficult to get rid of the ideas of hell, damnation, sin, women being second class citizens, etc. I would think that at some point you just need to get over it. Then you can fully embrace a Pagan path. The difficult part is deciding what path you want to join: Wicca, Witchcraft, reconstructionism, Dianic Witchcraft, etc. Once you find one that you feel truly expresses yourself the old ways will fall away and you can begin to encompass everything that Paganism has to offer to you.
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My life has been a spiritual journey from the very beginning. I grew up a "cradle Catholic." Very faithful family, and all extended family members, to our religion. Regular Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation attendance. No meat on Fridays (year-round when I was a child, before Vatican II). It was a "culture" as well as a religion, and wrapped me in a safe cocoon of belonging. My grandmother taught me about being at peace in Nature. Observing the animals and the plants, being aware of and appreciating the changing of the seasons. Her practical nature also recognized the need for beauty and so she planted not only loads of veggies and had an apple tree and a grape arbor, canned and pickled her produce. She also grew an equal amount of flowers because she said beauty was as important as the practical. I think the beauty of her flowers let her spirit soar. I learned that on a hot summer afternoon, sitting inside a hedge, and listening to the sleepy chatter of the birds, the rustlings of the squirrels, the quiet murmurings of a breeze in the trees and bushes, there was a special quiet time that nurtured me INSIDE, in my spirit. That was probably my first connection to the Goddess. Of course, I didn't know of her. I *did* know of Mary, Jesus' mother, though. So perhaps in my childhood religion, the Goddess WAS there, if with a different "identity."

Once I grew up, I began to see that I had some problems with the church's attitudes and teachings. About birth control. About women's roles in the Church. As a young teen I was actually all set to want to enter a convent, to become a Franciscan nun (the order of the nuns at the elementary parochial school I attended for a few years). I knelt in prayer until my knees hurt. I prayed to serve God. At 16 I asked my dad if he would sign papers to allow me to become a Postulant. He said no. He said he wanted me to finish high school and to go to college first. Then, if my vocation was true, that would be the time. I was NOT happy with his answer, but in retrospect I have come to know that he knew me better than myself. In my desire to be special, to have an identity of my own, I was rushing into something I really didn't understand beyond my capacity. Living in a convent would be "safe." I wouldn't have to worry about what boys thought of me (I was tall, wore glasses, etc.). I could run away from all the decisions and choices, and let the nuns make those choices for me. My dad understood this and knew that would be the wrong reason for me to join a religious order.

By the time I was halfway through college (still attending church with my parents, living at home) I began to read and study world religions. I learned a little about the Hindu beliefs in a course by a teacher from India. I learned about Buddhism a little. I learned from my evangelical high school friend, about a different version of Christianity. I realized running in FEAR to a convent was not the answer. It wasn't supposed to be like that. As I finished college, I chose to make a definitive break with my childhood religion, because I knew "God" was demanding more study and thought from me. So, as I began to work full-time, I began to buy books. All kinds of spiritual books. I learned about meditation. I learned about other philosophies and approaches to life. I read Ayn Rand. ;)) I read about Gestalt. I read about TM. I checked out some of the communes and ashrams and so on.

I tried other sects of Christianity. Again finding similar wrongness, IMO, about women's roles and control of their own reproductive choices. I couldn't follow a God that looked at gender as a "separate but equal" concept. I could see in the Civil Rights movements, that this was bunk and really discriminatory, underneath. Just pretty words. Same bias underneath. I learned that women should have many opportunities, many choices. And that these choices were not either/or, but could be "and." I spent a few years as a member of a Zen Buddhist temple. I learned meditation. I learned about the flow of life. I learned about Tao and the symbol of the Circle, the combination of light and dark that we all are. That male/female intertwined, sharing equally in the journey, leadership, follow-ship, what have you, was the real answer. Not patriarchy. Not matriarchy. Neither and both. I left Zen behind because in the version I was studying, it was very male dominated. I knew the answer to feminine sacredness wasn't there, either.

So I kept meditating on my own. Even tried going back to the Catholic Church for a year or two. Same problems. Same disillusionment. Couldn't stay. Then I heard something new was happening. There were "Goddess Circles" and women coming together to talk about spiritual power and the Sacred Feminine. My daughter came asking questions about the Goddess. We bought books. We studied. We talked to other women. We found finally a balance, a way of relating to the Sacred that was demanding, yet fulfilling, loving, not judging. We judge ourselves. Karma holds us accountable. Reincarnation is our classroom to evolve to the fullness of who we were created to become.

My path has been a solitary one. Until the past couple of years, in which I found a small group and am now a member of a little Circle/Coven. :) We celebrate mostly the Sabbats and the rest of the time, I am still on my own solitary spiritual mystic path. I hold myself accountable, I strive to work through the challenges of living "harm none" and not accumulating difficult Karma I will have to work through later, in this life or another. :P I feel the presence of the Goddess and God, I open myself to the guidance that is always there, if I am quiet and ready to listen. Revelation. Awareness. Prayer. Magic. As little daily choices come up, I try to see them in an "awakened" fashion, of their ramifications to my spirit and my journey. Do the choices serve me well? Do they serve my Goddess and God well? Life and spirit are in the details, after all. :D

My journey isn't settled. I am not "home." I am just here, just living day by day, moment by moment, challenge by challenge, choice by choice. I don't think my current definition of a spiritual "home" is any more accurate than another's. I think we are all spokes of a wheel, with the center being the Divine. We name it, we worship a certain way, we set up and write sacred texts and create guidelines and dogma that we think we need to connect with the Divine. Our spiritual wheel rotates, takes on one religion or view and then another, in different cultures, times in history. I see it as an evolutionary process and that we choose our tools as our spirit matures and moves forward, our yearning for the Divine and being one with whatever that is. Maybe we are only "one" at death, as our bodies return to the Earth to nurture other physical life. Maybe death is a "doorway" not to be feared but greeted with joyful expectation. I think none of anyone's "answers" are the whole of it. I do believe we are all doing the best we can, with the answers and understanding we have. I do believe that we should treat each other gently and lovingly and supportively as our journeys connect and disconnect with each other. To give each of us the respect we deserve along the way.

My life is pretty balanced given the choices I have made so far. I am facing "old age and death" as my Zen readings describe it. Many years ago, of course I thought I'd live forever. ;)) Now I know that is not true. My body tells me so. My spirit tells me so. My work here in this lifetime will come to an end, not a full conclusion of my entire journey, but a return to spirit for a respite before taking up the burden again of evolution and reincarnation, to continue the work. It will take as long as it takes. Each lifetime teaching me more about this sacred being that I am now and am becoming.

My path has taught me much about trusting my inner wisdom, my intuition, that guiding voice within, that connects me with my Goddess and God, the Divine. In the struggles over the years, I have gained strength to walk my own path, to push the spiritual envelope of awareness, to trust the journey and its purpose.


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I think that what I particularly like about Paganism is that nothing is set in stone. It's not "You must believe in this" and "You must do that." We don't have a holy book that lists all the behaviors and the things that can go wrong and what will happen if we mess up, etc. We each find our own way. And not all of the different paths follow the same "rules." Wicca does have the Threefold Law and the Wiccan Rede, but not all Wiccans follow them and there are plenty of other paths that don't follow them at all. Some paths have a hierarchy of Gods and Goddesses, while others don't. Some have well-known legends and myths and folklore, while others don't. And that is the beauty of the Pagan paths. You can decide for yourself what you want to follow, what you need in your life.
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